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Is that a pig in the sky?

Republican Congressional candidate says main priority is energy reform

Posted by JMG (Guest Contributor) at 8:22 AM on 28 Jun 2008

Read more about: politics | elections | Oregon | energy

While Oregon Sen. Gordon Smith (R.) tries to fuzz his ties to the GOP and his unswerving devotion to the Bush agenda (in between lurches to the center around election time), at least Oregon voters in the First District have a choice that's actually interesting: either Democrat David Wu, considered a huge disappointment and one of the least effective members of Congress (he's so lame that even the Oregonian, who typically only stops endorsing incumbents after they've been six feet under for months, endorsed his primary opponent) or this guy.

I don't know if that guy's got any of the right answers, but he's sure got the right questions.

votes will tell

Rep David Wu's voting record on the environment is 100% pro-environment according to League of Conservation Voters.  
A bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush.

Oregon League of Conservation Voters ...

... also supports the huge tax giveaways for biofuels plants that have led to trainloads of midwest corn being brought to Oregon to be turned into ethanol with additional tax breaks.  (This is in a state where tens of thousands of poor people had to enter a LOTTERY to determine access to the state-supported health plan.)

So a 100% approval rating from the LCV is not something you can automatically assume is a good thing.

The 5% Project

Gristonomics


I challenge Grist to do the following:

  1. Establish an Anthropomorphic Global Warming fund.

  2. Invite all those who fear global warming to contribute 1/2 (50%) of their salaries to the fund.

  3. Use the fund to do all the stuff you accuse "the Government" of not doing.

  4. List the salaries and income of all those who believe in AGW and how much of their income goes toward either (a) CO2 reduction or (b) generation of the CO2 that they fear so much.


Backwards Economics

So, JBailo, those of us who don't own cars or participate in other activities that siginificantly cause global warming, should make a huge sacrifice of paying half of our salaries/wages to combat the greenhouse gases created by those who do?

Don't Argue...

I've found in my years it is usually best not to argue with ignorance. Since they don't use real world logic it turns out to be a fruitless battle not worth the effort. Until, of course, the ignorant become powerful aka GWB.

Gristwits: I'll take Famous Phrases for 100 Alec


So, JBailo, those of us who don't own cars or participate in other activities that siginificantly cause global warming, should make a huge sacrifice of paying half of our salaries/wages to combat the greenhouse gases created by those who do?

No...that's the point.

Private Hedge Funds

I don't know about this specific race in Oregon and will stay out of local politics there. But the chatter seemed to run off a bit like some kind of "Grist Fund" for things the government can't or won't do. It's worthy of another blog thread for sure.

With investors running away from financials to commodities, now "clean industries" such as wind and solar power are attracting major investment pools. Earlier Grist ran some articles about an investor who went long on ethanol, which turned out to be a poor investment because supplies are high and some processors are going bankrupt. OK, it was and is a disaster from the start.  While we tend to treat such investors as proverbial scum, they are the true motivators of our modern economy, having access to billions of dollars (Euros are even better!).  

From a policy perspective, this is troubling for our government because we don't regulate that kind of economy very well, and the government hasn't come through with a meaningful program for renewable energy. Can we or should we rely on market investors who treat wind and solar power like a traded commodity to achieve our goals?

Look at it this way, it is a relatively safe hedge to get into renewables because (1) they're making good money and (2) a cap & trade program will only make them MORE money by taxing others.

The only thing to watch for IMHO is a giant bubble of over-speculation in renewables. The latest crash in housing is a classic example of a bubble in the making for over ten years - which was caused in part by the US government and it's lax standards of performance. So the question comes down to how to harmonize a public-private clean energy program while being able to make corrective actions so as to prevent a bubble.  -sam

Onward through the fog

One reason a renewable production tax credit works

Is that it doesn't lend itself to bubble financing schemes.

That is, you're not paying for facility or plans, you only pay on actual, delivered output renewable power, which can't be withheld if you want the credit.  Obviously the subsidy gets capitalized in that it makes people willing to pay more for ownership of renewable plants, but that is what it's for -- making ownership of renewable plants more desirable.  If the plants aren't making good net energy, then no amount of production tax credit helps.

Your comment recalls some of Sean Castens, suggesting that we simply set a tightening carbon emissions standard and charge a toll on everyone delivering power with excess carbon and give the money to those delivering power with less than the standard amount of carbon.

Sometimes a sharp increase in price isn't reflective of a bubble, it's reflective of a fundamental increase in value.

The 5% Project

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