They raised gas prices, then oil prices dropped 5 bucks on fear (gasp!) of lowered demand.

Which brings me back to a point I was trying to make about state owned corporations awhile back here.  China keeps beating us in trade because it's state owned corporations do not need to make profits.  They can lose money to benefit other sectors of the chinese economy.

The currency can then be manipulated to reap huge international trade advantages.  They don't just subsidize their industries to beat the competition (as the rest of us are not supposed to do?), they ARE the industries.

Iraq under Saddam set gas at 10 cents per gallon to keep the masses happy and boost the economy.

We have a free marketeeerian crowd screaming to let markets operate efficiently in a world of monopoly state owned (or state owning, as in exxonmob/bushco/halliburton) corporations.  Pure madness, results, as in whole national gasoline market with prices set by government corporation.

And yet the economists still talk as if it is all just part of the eternal, omniscient god, the market.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

China isn't beating us in trade. It's a chimera. China has made a Faustian pact, artificially keeping it's currency low buy buying US dollars. It's currency can not simply be cut loose, it can't unload the dollars, it needs the US as a trading partner.

do you want the US government owning buisiness and regulating every aspect of our existence? Would YOU want to live in China? Do you want a return to protectionism? Bad juju.

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Wars for oil are the norm under both systems.  Price fixing too.  No free markets exist, that's an illusion.

Solar energy from my solar panels on the grid sold to the neighbor to charge his plugin hybrid?  That's a real free market.  Supply and demand, investment, risk, and profit.  Real capitalism.

Which would we the people prefer?  This free market.

 Or corporate feudalism under bushco or feudal corporatism under the chinese, saudi, mexican, russian model?

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

That you are free to write whater tripe you wish here on the net demonstrates that the country is completely free.

And you can't even see it. Blinded as you are by hatred.

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And bushco can have anyone kidnapped and "rendered" unto another country to be tortured and murdered.  It's a fact.  They kidnap you claiming you are a terrorist, and habeus corpus cannot be applied to get you your day in court.

US citizenship only protects you if you can get to court.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

but of course there is. You CAN buy and manufacture solar panels. You CAN buy and manufacture electric cars. You can produce your own renewable energy to your hearts content. Who has told you you are prohibited by law from doing these things?

"And bushco can have anyone kidnapped and "rendered" unto another country to be tortured and murdered.  It's a fact.  They kidnap you claiming you are a terrorist, and habeus corpus cannot be applied to get you your day in court."

No, they can't. And, in fact, US citizen can not be rendered and can't be deported to another country either. This is a lie. The ONLY case where a US citizen was rendered was the Padilla case, and the government dropped that case and pursued it in a civil court. The only other similar case was the Lindh case and he was actually captured on the battlefield but nevertheless tried in an American court.

There have been ZERO cases of the government trying to exploit the war on terror or the rendition process in order to silence environmentalists or other legitimate critics. ZERO.

"US citizenship only protects you if you can get to court."

Which so far has only been a problem for convicted terrorist Padilla. Since then the government has NOT denied judicial proceedings to American citizens.

You are making claims that are blatantly false and trying to insinuate the US is some sort of police state. Obviously you never spent any time in a police state, or you would know the difference.

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