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CEI-yai-yai

CEI deniers praise Andy Revkin, diss Tiger Woods

Posted by Joseph Romm (Guest Contributor) at 11:29 PM on 14 Jun 2008

tiger_woods_fist_pump.jpgI'd like to thank the Competitive Enterprise Institute for publishing such an unintentionally informative and amusing newsletter. Rarely has the anti-scientific nature of global warming denial been so well stated in a mere two sentences:

A scientist who says that the atmosphere is warming, and cites certain physical processes, is still a scientist. A scientist who argues that people must take certain acts to avoid disaster has become a priest.

In other words, "A doctor who diagnoses your diabetes using medical tests is still a doctor. A doctor who tells you to exercise, change your diet, monitor glucose levels, and/or take insulin to avoid acute complications has become a priest."

What's funny about this is that nonscientist deniers have no trouble whatsoever offering their absurd "scientific conclusions" that the climate isn't changing, the earth isn't warming, it's all sunspots, blah, blah, blah, but then attack scientists for offering serious scientific and technological judgments about the solution to global warming. The amazing thing is that even non-deniers like Roger Pielke Jr. push this mantra.

But I digress. The author of this gem, "The New Environmental Priesthood," is CEI's Director of Projects and Analysis, Iain Murray. Murray is well known for his many over-the-top denier claims (see here and here), but he has probably never made a more inaccurate statement in his life than in his discussion of the infamous "Inhofe 400":

Former Clinton administration appointee Joseph Romm characterized the study as "recyc[ling] unscientific attacks on global warming." When New York Times environment correspondent Andrew Revkin, one of the few reporters to even-handedly cover the global warming debate, mentioned the Inhofe study on his blog, Romm slammed him for legitimizing it, calling Revkin's coverage "amazing." Romm went on to suggest that Freeman Dyson was not a serious scientist, which is a bit like saying Tiger Woods isn't a good golfer.

Wow! First off, if I'm Andy Revkin, the last thing I want is for one the leading denialist "think" tanks to say I am "one of the few reporters to even-handedly cover the global warming debate." Ouch! That's like Fox News calling you fair and balanced.

Second, I wouldn't call what Inhofe did a "study," but a laughable and padded list. I did indeed call Revkin's coverage of the list amazing, which it was, as you can judge for yourself (see "here").

Third, I did not "suggest Freeman Dyson was not a serious scientist." Quite the reverse. I wrote:

I'm not certain a dozen on the list would qualify as "prominent scientists," and many of those, like Freeman Dyson -- a theoretical physicist -- have no expertise in climate science whatsoever. I have previously debunked his spurious and uninformed claims, although I'm not sure why one has to debunk someone who seriously pushed the idea of creating a rocket ship powered by detonating nuclear bombs! Seriously.

Isn't it fairly clear that the first sentence is saying the list doesn't have even a dozen who qualify as "prominent scientists" but that the few who do qualify as prominent scientists, like Freeman Dyson, are not qualified to dismiss the research, observations, analysis, and conclusions of the thousands of leading climate scientists who are responsible for our current understanding of human-caused global warming? Now I can add that not only is Dyson unqualified to comment on climate science, he is equally uninformed on climate solutions (see "here").

I would not, however, have bothered to respond to this pointless piece of denier disinformation were it not for the final sentence. Anybody who knows me knows I am the world's biggest Tiger Woods fan and will be glued to the TV set this Father's Day weekend to see Tiger win his third U.S. Open. Dyson does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence, paragraph, page, book, or universe as Woods.

Woods is almost certainly the greatest golfer of all time (sorry, Jack) and would be on many lists of the top 10 athletes of all time (see, for instance, here).

Dyson, on the other hand, is not among the top two physicists of all time. That would be Einstein or Newton. Dyson wouldn't be on the list of top physicists or mathematicians. Dyson did not author or co-author any of the most cited papers (PDF) from Physical Review. Dyson did not make the "top 100 living geniuses," though, in fairness, Dolly Parton did. Dyson did not make the "100 Scientists Who Shaped World History." Dyson did not make the Top 100 weirdest amphibians list [though in all honesty, I didn't actually check the list for Dyson's name -- it just seem pretty damned unlikely to me.]

If the entire scientific community (living and dead) were golfers, Dyson wouldn't even be on the PGA Tour. Yes, Dyson is a somewhat famous scientist, but that's mainly because he wrote a few popular books.

In any case, this was all before Dyson ventured into the most important scientific discussion in all of human history -- climate change science. By taking the "it's not a big deal" side -- [actually 'side' is too generous, unless we are talking a 100-sided die] -- Dyson has effectively destroyed his professional reputation, as will be obvious in a couple of decades assuming we listen to people like him.

Dyson is now, I'm afraid, little more than a scientific duffer.

The Quantum Genius Will Have The Last Laugh

Its funny to read a journalist deride one of the greatest geniuses of the modern age as a "scientific duffer".

This is especially after the same reporter should have noticed the flooding devastation in middle America caused by the coldest winter since 1992, the winter after Pinatubo erupted.

www.spaceweather.com

tick tock, tick tock, the sun is catching up with you...

Hurray Dolly Parton!

(who does harmony vocals with Emmylou Harris, in the song "Gold," in the latter's deep new album, "All I Intended to Be."  The two "Trio" albums, collaborations of Dolly, Emmylou and Linda Ronstadt, from back in the 1980s, are classic.)

It is terrificly ironic that scientists should be accused of being "priests" (as though that were a dirty word) for making recommendations -- when of course science is popularly confused with technology, and especially with technological "advances," technological "progress," i.e. what is "good" for us.

So, in some contexts, scientists are encouraged to do all the recommending that they want, but in others they must keep silent?

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

Dyson

Dyson was a scientist during one of the most important times in nuclear history. And an important one. That he chooses to use that weight in a later age, for a different reason is unfortunate.

Teller and Fuller did it as well.  Depending on which side of the fence youre on, the super or the yurt, you may cheer or boo.  

But Dyson was an important man in his time.

the times they are a changin'

He's not on those lists because he's *old*

Joe - I respect you, but I also respect Dyson for his great contributions to physics many decades ago. The Tiger Woods of physics of recent history was, almost without question, Richard Feynman; Feynman developed his own approach to quantum electrodynamics that has become an extremely useful calculating tool (Feynman diagrams) in the 1950's; around the same time the traditional quantum mechanics people (Schwinger) developed their more mathematical-looking perturbation theory approach. Dyson was the one who proved the two methods were equivalent, essentially by putting Feynman's diagrams on a firm theoretical footing, and one of the fundamental equations still used in quantum field theory is the Dyson equation.

So Dyson isn't Tiger, no. But he wasn't far off in his prime about 40-50 years ago. Now, well, he's like many of those curmudgeonly old physicists - in fact I suspect he was good friends with Frederick Seitz as they're both Princetonites. There are Dysons and Seitz's and Roy Spencer's who we just have to deal with somehow or other. Denigrating their past contributions is probably not the best approach...

technology

Thanks, Canis, that's a good point. Science and technology are not the same thing, and it seems to me folks generally have an affinity for technology and are lukewarm on science. Technology brings gadgetry, the plain-sight frills of science, really, the GPS unit that will help you find home, while science is harder to pin down, but brings us understanding and advances in standards of living, etc.

We've got to dream up new ways to bring scientific truths out. The climate debate will benefit.  

Erik

The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, & more

fix science education then

The route of the problem is that science education in the US is totally broken.

Here's a useful primer on how to fix it:
http://coehp.uark.edu/pase/TheMythsOfScience.pdf


ooops

English language Education might need fixing too. I meant "root of the problem" of course.

obituary

But Dyson was an important man in his time.

It reminds me of Mencken's obit for William Jennings Bryan: It's a tragedy when a man spends his career as a hero and ends it as a buffoon.

Same thing's been true for Nader for awhile now.


nader quixotic not buffoon

although i support ralph's political career, if you can call it that, i know he's not the kind of person people really imagine when they picture the president -- but i don't think it's quite fair to describe his writings or proposals as laughable. they're solid, and if you throw them away because he spits at a lot of democrats, you might not end up electing someone who would help you get those things.

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