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Remake a Living: Environmental management careers

College grads hit the green job market -- here's what they'll find

Posted by Kevin Doyle (Guest Contributor) at 12:53 PM on 22 Apr 2008

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Another Earth Day has come around, and that means college graduations are just a few weeks away. Soon-to-be alumni throughout the nation are dusting off résumés, poring over job listings, and then moving back into their old bedrooms at home "for a little while." I predict a progression of messages from dear old Dad. (Welcome back. Clean the garage. Don't get too comfortable. Get a job already.)

With so many aspiring eco-job-seekers entering the world of gainful employment, it seems like a good time to take the temperature of the environmental-management job market. To find out what's going on, we talked to the career services directors at four leading environmental graduate schools. Collectively, these schools are sending 340 master's-level students into the world of work this year. Our tour guides to the 2008 green job market are:

Strength of the job market

The green-career experts rated the '08 job scene on a scale of 1 to 5, where 5 was: "super hot -- the best ever" and 1 was: "weak -- we're worried." All four felt that the current market was north of "3" (average) and might even be "4" (very good). And they pointed out that even an "average" year for them would be considered "excellent" in some fields. Almost all of the grads are expected to land a job they want. So even if 2008 only remains steady, students at these schools are in pretty good shape.

The current recession is not going unnoticed, but the impact seems fairly small. "It's true that we are seeing some tough economic times," said Yee-Litzenberg, "but we have not seen a correlating shortage of job opportunities in the environmental management fields."

Parker agrees. "While I have heard of some firms cutting back," he said, "most firms are in desperate need of strong entry level to mid-level employees. There are more recruiters this year, and I don't see things slowing down, even with talk of a recession." Parker added that "more Bren students were placed before March than ever before."

It's a good year for these job seekers to be job seeking.

Who's hiring?

Where will these students be going to work? The chart below reflects 2008 estimates (Yale and UCSB) and previous year's grads (Michigan and Duke).

Master's Graduates Employment, By Sector
Employment Sector Duke UCSB Michigan Yale
U.S. federal government 29% 12% 15% 15%
U.S. state and local gov't 10% 8% 6% 14%
Consulting firms 29% 40% 24% 20%
Other corporations 2% 16% 16% 20%
Universities/research 10% 5% 2% 7%
Nonprofits/NGOs 20% 14% 27% 16%
Other 0% 5% 10% 5%

Trend talk

All four university reps have noticed some 2008 trends: Kirchof says that consulting employment is on the rise among her graduates, and that the consultants coming to campus often have large government client portfolios, especially from federal government agencies. She also notes that Uncle Sam himself is still a big employer of environmental professionals. Agencies looking for talent have expanded the use of "direct hire" methods to overcome the byzantine federal hiring process that defeats so many would-be public servants.

Yee-Litzenberg agreed. She notes that federal agencies like the USDA Forest Service are doing more direct outreach to universities to fill choice positions that feed into management-track opportunities. The nation's forest agency nabbed an "Innovations in Government" Award for the program to recruit future environmental leaders.

If there is a small downer in the 2008 market, it might be in the nonprofit sector. "A slow economy hits fundraising hard, and that can mean both more people staying in their current jobs, and fewer dollars for new hires," Kirchof says. On the up side, she notes an increase in the number of nonprofit opportunities on "the business side," including job listings for more development officers, operations managers, and finance-related managers. Although many of Kirchof's students continue to have an interest in a nonprofit career, she has seen a slight fall-off in job offer acceptances. She names the cause: debt. "Higher education can be pretty expensive, and some of our students are understandably drawn to places with higher salaries to pay off student loans."

There's also a bit of panic among employers as they compete with one another for the best people. "The big issue across the board is the shortage of talented environmental professionals and the anticipated large number of retirements taking place in the next 3-5 years," Parker says. In-demand skill sets include air and water quality management, life cycle assessment, alternative energy, water supply demand, and green investments.

One of the most sought-after jobs for Otis' grads is that of sustainability director for a major corporation, university, or municipality. The 21st century sustainability leaders would be as likely to take classes in the School of Business as they would in the "environment" master's program, he says, and eventually the lines among the schools will be even more permeable than they are today. Additionally, he says, climate-related careers are on the rise. "We are receiving a lot of jobs related to climate change and energy in general; it is way up from five years ago when the field wasn't a household word as it is becoming today."

Yee-Litzenberg points to a surge of interest in clean technology investing. "Those who couple strong finance skills with deep sustainability knowledge are sought after by private equity, venture capital and investment banking firms."

It's not all about global warming, though, as Yee-Litzenberg notes that landscape architecture and environmental policy jobs are also on the rise. And Parker notes that environmental media career opportunities are hitting the big time at UCSB. "Film, video, webcasting, website design, and related fields are all in demand," he says. "There is a huge need for creativity in getting the message out in a way that really counts."

Mixed messages about international careers

We live in a global economy. No doubt about that. All four of the schools have significant numbers of international students. In addition, many of the U.S.-born students want a job that will take them to other parts of the world.

That doesn't mean that it's easy to land an international job right out of graduate school. "There's language skills, the need for in-country experience and cultural knowledge," Kirchof says. "People need to have high quality technical skills in their area of interest, and they need a more international network of job contacts."

The upside, of course, is that a smart aspiring professional can find ways to gain the needed knowledge, experience, and networks through intentional choices about classes, professors, internships, fellowships, and study abroad options.

Is a "professional" master's program for you?

All four of the schools surveyed are "professional" or "career-focused" environmental science and management degree programs. That may be one reason that employers are eager to hire their graduates -- in good times and bad. Programs like these are designed to train people for real world environmental problem solving in targeted areas like coastal environmental management, sustainability planning, corporate environmental management, water science, policy and management, and global environmental change.

The practical approach aims to graduate environmental management professionals who have the right mix of scientific, policy, finance, and management knowledge needed to address the issue at hand. At the same time, students learn core competencies that will allow them to be quick learners if and when their interests -- or the issues around them -- start to change.

That's the idea, anyway, and employers seem to be buying it. If you're considering graduate school, you might want to think about investing in a master's program like the ones here. There are lots of other great programs to choose from as well. Googling a phrase like "professional environmental management graduate program" can get you started.

How does the job market look to you?

Are you a student facing graduation, an employer looking for talent, or a career services director watching the market for green grads? We'd love to hear your stories and questions. Log on now and tell us how things look where you are!

Kevin DoyleKevin Doyle is the president of Green Economy, a Boston-based firm offering consulting, training, facilitation, and strategic planning help to the public and private institutions building a more sustainable economy. He is the co-author of The ECO Guide to Careers That Make a Difference: Environmental Work for a Sustainable World, and is at work on a new book about climate change careers. He welcomes your green career questions here or directly to kevinldoyle@gmail.com.

Ranking environmental policy/management programs

Got a call from an Indiana University grad who urges me to check out the most recent environmental policy and management graduate school rankings from U.S. News and World Report.

You guessed it.  Indiana University is on top of the pile, followed by:

Syracuse
Duke
UC Berkeley
University of Washington
University of Michigan
Harvard
University of North Carolina
Columbia
Carnegie Mellon
University of Wisconsin

Looks like I've got a few more phone calls to make.  (Unless, of course, grads from these places want to weigh in directly about the '08 job market and save me the trouble)

Kevin

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Clere Thinking

Decided to contact some of those other schools (see comment above) and heard back first from Ray Clere, the director of career services for Indiana University's School of Public and Environmental Affairs.  He advises graduate students in environmental policy and natural resource management and environmental science. I offered him the chance to smack down those other colleges, or at least talk a little trash.  He declined.

He did, however share thoughts about the 2008 environmental job market.  

"Consulting companies and federal government agencies seem to be stepping up their hiring of our graduates.  In the consulting world, I'm noticing a big interest in general sustainability work, and in niche areas like carbon sequestration, environmental remediation, water quality, air quality and alternative energy," he said.  "The federal agencies include the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, EPA, Department of Energy and the Department of State's Bureau of Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs.  Corporations with sustainability practices like Lehman Brothers are also in the mix."

Some entrepreneurs come out of the Indiana program.  Clere mentioned a 1999 graduate named Kyle Tanger who started the DC-based company called Clear Carbon Consulting (www.clearcarbonconsulting.com).

No word from Ray about who he plans to vote for in the Indiana primary.

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Think twice about that grad degree?

Fielding interesting emails, and sharing them with you.  We're here to serve. (But, please, log on directly with your comments.  It's so much more fun for all of us and you get a free Grist account!)

Michael Gillenwater from the Greenhouse Gas Management Institute writes to say:

"Although the environmental schools are doing well, if you talk to employers working in the booming carbon markets and other related areas, universities are completely failing to teach the things that are needed in the marketplace."

Hmmmmm..."doing well", but "completely failing".  I'll be parsing that one for a while.

It probably won't be a surprise to learn that Gillenwater and his team feel that they are "working to correct that" and are "in the process of developing university level curriculum for...greenhouse gas accounting and management."

You can learn more at www.ghginstitute.org.

Kevin

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Do Green MBAs get Green Jobs?

Sustainable Industries just ran an article on this topic. Thought you all might be interested to read it: http://www.sustainableindustries.com/sijnews/17287629.htm ...

Great article. Thanks.

Thanks for sharing the article from Sustainable Industries.  Anyone thinking about a "green" MBA would benefit from reading it.  It would interesting to hear from '08 MBA grads or Net Impact members about how their job searches are going.

Kevin

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Kevin,

When you checked the rankings, and this is my laziness, did you notice that it was Syracuse getting the environmental policy and management graduate school ranking, or was it SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry, which is located right next to SU, shares the majority of their facilities, and some classes? Because we are a distinctly different breed, particularly as we do not receive any money from SU.

Which Syracuse is Syracuse?

My understanding is that the high ranking for environmental policy and management graduate study went to the Maxwell School at Syracuse.

Kevin

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Additional Green Jobs Resources

Thanks for the great article!  It's valuable to see environmental career trends from other partner institutions.  Here are a few additional resources that may be of interest to job seekers in the environmental field:



Where the Jobs Are (A report highlighting trends in federal hiring) 


Environmental Job Posting Sites 


Minority Environmental Leadership Development Initiative (great resources for all on environmental careers and leadership) 


Career Statistics and Sample Career Opportunities from University of Michigan, School of Natural Resources and Environment (Masters degree program)


 





 




Lisa Yee-Litzenberg Coordinator of Student Career Services University of Michigan School of Natural Resources and Environment http://www.snre.umich.edu
Letters filling the e-mail bag

Thanks to those of you who are sending career questions and situations directly to me.  It's clearly past time for a "from the e-mail bag" column and I'll take that on next month. Please keep your career and job-hunting questions coming, or post them as an "add a comment" right here.  Either way, we're here to help.

Kevin

P.S. Visit the jobs board and get info about Grist U., our new green careers campus visit program.  Just click the widget.

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Programs for an MBA in Sustainability

I have decided to pursue an MBA in sustainable business development - the kind of stuff touched on in "Cradle to Cradle," "Natural Capitalism," "Ecology of Commerce," and the like. I've begun researching programs, but wanted advice to narrow my choices down. From the list you provide in the article, which do you feel would best cater to this skill set?

Green MBA rankings

Thanks for the question.  If you're looking for a greener kind of MBA program specifically, the graduate programs I looked at may not be for you.  Those offered environmental policy and management degrees.  The lines are blurring these days, but not that much.  An MBA is still a different animal.

For info about "green" (boy, we really do need a new adjective, don't we?) MBAs, your best sources are the "Beyond Grey Pinstripes" surveys (http://www.beyondgreypinstripes.org) and Net Impact's student guide (http://www.netimpact.org)

Here's a peek at what you'll find.  "Grey Pinstripes" says the top ten green MBA programs are:

Stanford
Michigan
York
UC Berkeley
Notre Dame
Columbia
Cornell
Duquesne
Yale
IE Business School

Net Impact doesn't provide an overall ranking, but offers many different rankings according to a variety of criteria.  I was intrigued by a ranking based on actually finding, y'know, jobs.

The top ten there were listed as:

Cornell
Duke
Harvard
Northwestern
Michigan
UCal Irvine
University of Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Bainbridge Graduate Institute

Do yourself a favor and really read both reports in full.  Top ten lists are fun and all, but they can do more harm than good sometimes.  You can download the reports for free and they have good information about many other great MBA programs.

Finally, if you're looking for ideas about how to choose between "green" MBA programs and graduate programs like those in environmental policy, management, science and engineering, I'd be glad to take that up in a future "Remake a Living".

Kevin

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Green Demand...

Carnegie Mellon is a very interdisciplinary environment that plays on its strengths of design, engineering, and technology to propose solutions to some of the world's `green' problems.  We have The Institute for Green Science, where Terry Collins is working with molecular catalysts to rid water of hazardous pollutants.  We have the Intelligent Workplace where Volker Hartkopf is leading researchers on creating a `green' workplace that will generate more energy than it uses.  Within our Engineering and Public Policy Institute, we have the Green Design Institute, and the Climate Decision Making Center.

With all of this wonderful research and learning happening on campus, it inevitability spills over into Heinz School of Public Policy and Management.  It is at the Heinz School where the implications of various environmental policies are discussed.  It is in classes like Sustainable Community Development, where policy students learn alongside architecture students and thus begin to understand environmental problems from multiple perspectives.

Students from the Heinz School that have concentrated their studies on Environmental Policy are being snapped up by consulting firms, and local and federal government agencies (i.e. the EPA, the Dept of Energy, and the National Forest Service).  Nonprofits have not been on the radar as much (probably because of the great disparity in compensation), except in cases where the graduating students have been able to either create their own position (like Sustainability Coordinator), or actually start their own nonprofit organization.  Our students are not hired because they are environmental engineers, or developing the latest technologies to remediate environmental problems, they are being hired because they have a core quantitative skills set that allows them to analyze problems and make effective decisions as managers and leaders in a world that is becoming increasingly `green'.  


Does Uncle Sam *Really * Want You?

Almost all of the university career services directors I've spoken with have noticed an increase in federal government environmental hiring.  Thought I'd spend time at:

http://www.usajobs.com

to check things out.

In this Earth Day week, the nation's main environmentally focused agencies were running ads for hundreds of full-time, permanent jobs, including:

USDA Forest Service:  209
Natural Resources Conservation Service:  42
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin.: 102
Department of Energy:  400
Environmental Protection Agency:  25
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission:  10
Department of Interior:  600

Many more ads for seasonal, temporary, term and intern positions.

Lots of ammunition in the actual job titles for those who say that the feds overwhelmingly are looking for technical, scientific, engineering, legal and administrative help, as opposed to "creative generalists".  No denying that on the basis of this evidence.  But, then, isn't that true of our economy overall?

Check it out for yourself. The usajobs site is exceptionally valuable because it provides detailed information (including salary ranges) about a wide range of eco job titles that also show up in state government and at consulting firms.  It's a free source of reliable information about what kind of skills and background you meet need and how much you might expect to earn.

Kevin

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Buyer Be (A)ware

A last note about the job market for environmental management graduate students as I prepare for the Student Conservation Association Youth Summit in DC (http://www.thesca.org)and next week's CERES conference here in Boston next week. (http://www.ceres.org)

I've been getting interesting off-line pushback from students at some of the schools I mentioned.  The message is basically that career advisors and alumni polls/surveys don't tell the whole story and might even give a distorted (too optimistic?)sense of the job possibilities.

One example. An M.S. student from one of the programs wrote to say that he was "very dismayed" by the column. He noted that "the alumni survey from
which data was drawn was based on less than 50% of one graduating class (the percentage that responded to the survey).  The fate of the rest of the students was unknown."

Fair enough.

My message to would-be graduate students is:  Do your homework.  Take in the information provided by the schools, but seek out dissenting voices as well.  You can learn a lot about a graduate program from the people who felt that it turned out to be a waste of time and money.  

Have a great weekend, wherever you are.

Kevin

 

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

Why get one degree when you can get two?

Kevin,

I am a professional graduate student at the Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University and I just wanted to make an additional note on your article and some of the comments.  I am sure you heard from some of the career councilors, at least Karen Kirchof, about joint degree options that some of the schools mentioned offer.  I am actually pursuing two master degrees, a Master of Environmental Management (MEM) in Ecosystem Science and Conservation, and a Master of Forestry (MF) in Forest Resource Management, and many other students are pursing joint degrees as well.  A joint MEM/MF is very popular for managers hoping to work in forested areas (my focus is on the ecology, management, and restoration of forests and forested wetlands).  Many students here at the Nicholas School are pursuing joint MEM/MBA, MEM/JD, and MEM/MPP (Master of Public Policy)degrees as well.  Having multiple degrees allow you to 1) be more marketable, and 2) take two fields of study and merge them together.  I might be biased since I am a joint degree student, but I really feel that if you have a specific field you are interested in, a joint degree is the best bang for your buck.  Some of the joint MEM/MF students here at Duke are interested in land conservation work, wildlife management, using woody biomass for fuel, and carbon markets, amongst other things.  The joint MEM/MBA is very popular as well and I know that employers (particularly those that are graduates from the schools mentioned in your article) have much respect and regard for those that are on this tract.  It also usually takes less time to complete two degrees concurrently then separately.  It would normally take 2 years to complete one master degree, but in my case it will take me 2.5 years to complete two...pretty sweet deal.

Connor Coleman

Two for one deal

Thanks for sending this note along.  Nicholas school students aren't the only ones who commented on the value of dual degrees.  I heard from both students and faculty at many others about the advantage of merging environmental management and policy with:

  • law
  • engineering
  • business management
  • finance
  • a disciplinary science
  • information technology
  • public administration

Look before you leap, however.  If you choose a dual degree education, you'll want to think very carefully about the combination that works best for your particular career goals.

Many dual degree students note that the program requirements may increase the number of pre-requisites you need to take.  A dual degree can also increase your time in school, daily workload and expense.

If you're going to the trouble to improve your career competiveness, it's more important than ever to ask: competitive to do what?

None of which diminishes cpcoleman's comment.  It's definitely been my experience that the dual degree holders are seriously in demand.

Kevin      

Kevin Doyle kevinldoyle@gmail.com

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