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Don't hold your breath on Lieberman-Warner passing in 2008

Posted by Joseph Romm (Guest Contributor) at 5:01 PM on 14 Mar 2008

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no-retreat.jpgI can't imagine anyone believing we would see 60 Senate votes this year for an unwatered-down climate bill.

The center-right folk want big compromises, like a poison-pill safety valve (see below). But Sen. Boxer (D-Calif.) has little motivation to gut her legislation, since next year will probably bring more Senate Democrats and definitely bring a president who wants to take action, rather than one who has done everything in his power to block action and destroy the climate.

E&E News has a good article on this titled, "Lieberman-Warner floor strategy bothers some Senate swing votes" ($ub. req'd):

Several senators holding critical swing votes on global warming legislation say they are disappointed with Democratic leadership's plan to pull the bill from the floor if any "weakening" amendments are added to the bill.

"That doesn't sound like a very encouraging way to start," said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska).

Murkowksi cosponsors a cap-and-trade proposal with Sens. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) and Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) that takes a less aggressive stance on curbing heat-trapping emissions compared with the climate legislation due on the floor this June from Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and John Warner (R-Va.).

Among other things, Murkowski favors a "safety valve" provision in the Bingaman-Specter bill that places a price ceiling on the costs to industry for its carbon dioxide prices. "I think there's some components in Bingaman-Specter that I'd like to see in Warner-Lieberman, and if they consider that ‘weakening,' that's going to make it tough," Murkowski said.

On Wednesday, Senate Environment and Public Works Chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) outlined a floor strategy for the Lieberman-Warner bill "leveraged" by the prospects of a more friendly president and Congress in 2009. Boxer pledged to push for Senate passage this year, but she also gave an ultimatum if the bill was changed against her wishes.

"I'll know it when I see it on the floor," she told reporters when asked what qualifies as a "weakening" amendment.

A safety valve should be a deal-breaker. Then, of course, there is nuclear power:

Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) voted against the Lieberman-Warner bill at the end of a December markup in the EPW Committee. But he also sent signals that he would be interested in supporting the measure if it included a significant nuclear title that created new rules on loan guarantees and improved confidence in waste storage.

In an interview yesterday, Isakson said he planned to offer a number of floor amendments that promote the expansion of new nuclear power plants -- something Boxer no doubt opposes. "Nuclear is a strengthening amendment, not a weakening amendment," Isakson said.

Maybe yes, maybe no. When Sen. McCain (R-Ariz.) squeezed nuclear into his climate bill, he lost five votes.

E&E News has an interesting breakdown of the likely votes in the Senate. Let me start with the fence-sitters:

Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
Sam Brownback (Kan.)
Robert Byrd (W.Va.)
Thad Cochran (Miss.)
Kent Conrad (N.D.)
Bob Corker (Tenn.)
Byron Dorgan (N.D.)
Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
Judd Gregg (N.H.)
Chuck Hagel (Neb.)
Mary Landrieu (La.)
Carl Levin (Mich.)
Mel Martinez (Fla.)
Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Mark Pryor (Ark.)
Gordon Smith (Ore.)
Arlen Specter (Pa.)
Ted Stevens (Alaska)
John Sununu (N.H.)
Jim Webb (Va.)

[E&E News does color-coding for D or R -- nonsubscribers can use Google.]

"Yes" votes:

Daniel Akaka (Hawaii)
Max Baucus (Mont.)
Joe Biden (Del.)
Jeff Bingaman (N.M.)
Barbara Boxer (Calif.)
Maria Cantwell (Wash.)
Ben Cardin (Md.)
Tom Carper (Del.)
Robert Casey (Pa.)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.)
Norm Coleman (Minn.)
Susan Collins (Maine)
Chris Dodd (Conn.)
Elizabeth Dole (N.C.)
Dick Durbin (Ill.)
Russ Feingold (Wis.)
Dianne Feinstein (Calif.)
Tom Harkin (Iowa)
Daniel Inouye (Hawaii)
Tim Johnson (S.D.)
Ted Kennedy (Mass.)
John Kerry (Mass.)
Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)
Herbert Kohl (Wis.)
Frank Lautenberg (N.J.)
Patrick Leahy (Vt.)
Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
Richard Lugar (Ind.)
Robert Menendez (N.J.)
Barbara Mikulski (Md.)
Patty Murray (Wash.)
Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Barack Obama (Ill.)
Jack Reed (R.I.)
Harry Reid (Nev.)
Bernie Sanders (Vt.)
Chuck Schumer (N.Y.)
Olympia Snowe (Maine)
Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)
Jon Tester (Mont.)
John Warner (Va.)
Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.)
Ron Wyden (Ore.)

Probable "yes" votes:

Evan Bayh (Ind.)
Sherrod Brown (Ohio)
John McCain (Ariz.)
Claire McCaskill (Mo.)
Jay Rockefeller (W.Va.)
Blanche Lincoln (Ark.)
Ken Salazar (Colo.)

That's another reason not to water this bill down -- to force McCain to vote yes or no for a serious bill.

Probable "no" votes (all Republicans, what a shock!):

Richard Burr (N.C.)
Larry Craig (Idaho)
Michael Crapo (Idaho)
Pete Domenici (N.M.)
Charles Grassley (Iowa)
Orrin Hatch (Utah)
Johnny Isakson (Ga.)
Mitch McConnell (Ky.)
John Thune (S.D.)
George Voinovich (Ohio)
Roger Wicker (Miss.)

"No" votes (all Republicans, who would have guessed?):

Wayne Allard (Colo.)
Bob Bennett (Utah)
Kit Bond (Mo.)
Jim Bunning (Ky.)
Saxby Chambliss (Ga.)
Tom Coburn (Okla.)
John Cornyn (Texas)
Jim DeMint (S.C.)
John Ensign (Nev.)
Michael Enzi (Wyo.)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas)
James Inhofe (Okla.)
Jon Kyl (Ariz.)
Pat Roberts (Kan.)
Jeff Sessions (Ala.)
Richard Shelby (Ala.)
David Vitter (La.)

This post was created for ClimateProgress.org, a project of the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

E& E list is probably wildly optimistic

but the situation is dynamic.

I agree with you that there is tremendous advantage in making them all vote.  Nothing focuses attention like trying to figure out what votes will be easiest to defend in November or in two years.

fence-sitter vs. probable yes or no

This is a subtle distinction, rather too subtle for me to follow.

The Democrats in the "probable yes" category, along with John McCain, should be more forthright: Bayh and McCaskill especially.  I have little respect any more for Rockefeller.

A shame to say it, but Mary Landrieu of LA would not be much of a loss, if she loses, as many predict she will.

Collins and Snowe of Maine continue to confirm my opinion that these women should be Democrats, and either would be great in the White House as our first (?) woman president.

Minnesota is going to be very interesting this year.  Notice how the intelligent Brooklynese Norm Coleman -- but at heart a mean jerk -- is cleaving left.

And Sununu of NH, also very intelligent and similarly objectionable, may do the same.

George Voinovich of Ohio is arguably the most interesting Republican (personally, not politically) in the Senate right now.  And perhaps the one that I would most like to go to a bar with.  Along with my native state's Arlen Specter (who fence-sits as a matter of principle).  And of course the excellent Richard Lugar.  I have little regard for the Republican brand, considering it generally a sign of grave moral deficiency; and so it would be great to schmooze with any of the small number of those who may actually have something worthwhile to say in their defense.

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