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Notable quotable

Posted by David Roberts at 4:46 PM on 08 Feb 2008

"The [Lieberman-Warner] bill, as reported out of committee, would be the most historic incentive for nuclear in the history of the United States."

-- an aide to Sen. Joe Lieberman

Just reading that gave me the chills.



Tim Hurst

ecopolitology

Red, Green, and Blue
100s of new nukes

Barack favors more nuking too.  Can't chill the rock star vibe with that reality though.  Just wouldn't be cool.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin
Grow up

You Greens need to give up your ignorant, silly and childish opposition to nuclear power.  Grow up for the sake of the planet.  Stop acting like members of a cult.

Charles Barton
Dude ... weak.

What's with pulling this quote out of context, then linking to the subscription-only article when a free link is easily googled? You can find the full article here.

The Lieberman aide is stating the obvious -- any carbon constraint bill is going to be an incentive for nuclear because nuclear power, for all its major flaws, is low-carbon. In fact, if you read the full article, the aide is arguing against adding even more nuclear incentives as Sen. McCain wants to do.

Attack Lieberman-Warner all you want, but pulling stuff out of context to do it? Major party foul.

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I agree with Charles

There is far too much effort being expended for carbon legislation that somehow excludes nuclear.  Nuke has other externalities that ought be considered, but there is no denying that it has GHG advantages relative to coal - and so if we are providing differential economic signals to lower carbon energy sources, nuclear ought to have a differential advantage on that metric.  

This my usual goals vs. paths rant, but suffice to say that the history of legislation that tries to craft exceptions to itself is decidedly poor.  (After all, as soon as you exempt nuke, you open the door to excepting all sorts of other things).  Witness RPS rules for a great example of what a clusterf*&k these things quickly become, as renewability gets tied up into criteria pollutant issues (so biomass is never quite as loved as solar), ancillary environmental consequences (big vs. small hydro), etc.  But the examples are far from limited to energy & environmental rules (witness any public school trying to figure out whether % of students going to colleges trump test scores trump free lunch programs trump desegregation concerns).  

Bottom line: define the rule and get out of the way.  Not just because it's better policy, but because it makes it more likely to get something done.  I met with several senators 6 months ago, talking with them specifically about the importance of going to output-based standards in carbon legislation, and their immediate response was "but wouldn't that create benefits for the nuclear industry"?  (Read: doing something right for carbon is hard precisely because of the pressure to bundle a bunch of other ideas into the regulation.)  I say who cares?  Isn't the purpose of carbon cap & trade to reduce the freaking carbon emissions? Deal with nuke externalities elsewhere - but don't defer good carbon policy just because we can't figure out how to glue unrelated concerns onto the same legislation.

Well said, Sean



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