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Posted by David Roberts at 2:49 PM on 03 Jan 2008

While I was vacationing, the Guardian's Comment Is Free site ran two pieces by yours truly, one assessing the climate issue as it manifests in the Democratic presidential field, the other doing the same for the Republican field. Check 'em out.

(I continue to be mystified by the extraordinarily high level of fruitcakery in the comments over there.)

UPDATE: I see that SolveClimate just made roughly the same point, and via them, AEI's Ken Green did the same. At least someone's paying attention.

There's a high level of fruitcakery because...

...as Ben Goldacre of Bad Science pointed out in the first of his Ten pieces of advice for old media:

Forget trying to foster linear discussion among your readers. You are a national newspaper, pulling in millions of viewers, the comments threads beneath your articles will always be rubbish, because the community is too large. Nobody will read all the other comments before writing one themselves, so there is no discussion, and in such a large community there is no shared pool of knowledge. At best your discussions might work with threaded comments, or with peer voting, like on bigger communities such as Slashdot. But linear comments - for communities that pull millions of visitors - can never produce interesting conversations.

Godacre's theory does not hold up in this case

There are only 14 comments on the one thread. The fruitcake ratio is through the roof.

Makes me appreciate the Gristmill community all the more.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

Hehe true that

I think it's just endemic in websites of the magnitude of GU. "In such a large community there is no shared pool of knowledge".

I struggle to think of any newspaper sites which have vaguely rational discussions in the comments.

Here's the nadir of them all:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/413976/good-ne ...

Enjoy!

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