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GE's climate credit card

Mock, yes, but then take a closer look

Posted by David Roberts at 10:15 AM on 26 Jul 2007

How about that GE Money Earth Rewards Platinum MasterCard? Hard not to make fun of it, right? So hard, in fact, that Daily Grist failed. To not make fun of it. That is to say, they made fun of it. And by "they" I mean "we."

Moving on.

Beyond the mockery, there's actually a reasonably interesting story here, and less of a Paradigmatic Example of Our Greedy, Rotten Culture than you might think.

Joel Makower, as usual, has the goods. This is particularly relevant:

The launch of the card is accompanied by the release of a standard for carbon credits in the United States. The standard, which will be used by GE's joint venture with AES Corp. to develop and sell carbon credits, aims to ensure that the offsets purchased by GE on behalf of its credit card customers "are scientifically verified and provide a positive, measurable environmental benefit," in the words of the company. ...

...

GE turned to GreenOrder to help develop the standard. Among GE's concerns were that given all the questions over the quality and authenticity of some carbon offsets, that theirs would be seen as credible. "GE realized that there was controversy about the offset market, about whether carbon reductions were really resulting from the offsets," says Nicholas Eisenberger, GreenOrder's managing principal. "And they realized that they have a lot at stake in addressing those concerns proactively."

GreenOrder and GE consulted with the World Resources Institute, The Nature Conservancy, ClimateCHECK, the Pew Center for Climate Change, and others, and conducted an evaluation of the major global standards for offsets -- both regulated and mandatory -- in order to craft a standard that addressed things like additionality, verification, and the myriad other techno-geeky issues surrounding offsets. You can download the standard here (PDF).

GE isn't the first to come up with this idea:

In March, the Dutch-based Rabobank introduced the Climate Card, which claims to offset consumer purchases. Earlier this month, U.K.-based Barclay Bank announced the Barclaycard Breathe card, which will "donate half of all profits to carbon reduction projects around the world." It's unclear exactly how the bank will calculate "profits," but Barclay has guaranteed at least £1 million (just over US$2 million) in donations towards environmental projects in its first year.

Stateside, Bank of America is readying plans to introduce its own card, probably in the next few weeks, contributing a portion of consumers' purchases to an environmental organization to invest in carbon offset projects. And there are still other climate-focused credit card schemes forthcoming from smaller, start-up ventures, often in partnership with leading environmental groups.

GE will be communicating with cardholders periodically about the impact they're having and other ways they can reduce their footprint.

In the end, this will siphon a little bit of money out of the private sector and direct it to carbon reduction. It won't solve the climate crisis. Nor will it "encourage" people to spend more, any more than any credit card will. It's a modest effort that will engage lots of folks that aren't now engaged. As Joel says:

Incremental realism versus radical change: I'll bet a lifetime of carbon credits on the former, any day of the week.

Thank you Mr. Roberts.

Thank you for providing some details regarding what GE did before offering this to customers. It is a sign of hope in a sea of despair.

As I pointed out before, I'm not exactly a big fan of global corporations, but at least they are trying... a little... a wee little bit. The first step toward recovery is to recognize that there is a problem, no?  Perhaps they will motivate other corporations to do more.

Not the guys I'd like to see the money go to

I'd be a lot more excited about this if the renewable energy part of it would help communities own their own energy projects rather than giant corporations. GE and AES don't need any help getting capital for their renewable energy projects, but communities sure do.

Project Types

I opened up the PDF files describing the standards.  The project types were listed at the bottom.  There were more than I copied here, but just wondering what you think of these:

A. Project Types
GE AES Greenhouse Gas Services will initially develop and/or market GHG credits from, and develop and adopt methodologies
for, the following project types:

  1. Coal mine methane
  2. Water and wastewater treatment
  3. Landfill and waste management

How do all these relate to the goal?  


Hmmm....

Capturing methane from coal mines... good.

Capturing methane from wastewater treatment... good.

Capturing methane from landfills or diverting material elsewhere (e.g., community composting)... good.

HEY!!!

I just heard, from someone else who heard from someone else, that about 40% of CO2 emissions from the oil industry are the result of just burning off natural gas from the oil fields!!! Is this true? There is even an example of a community without electricity, cooking gas, or heat just a few miles from such a flare -- I think that's what it is called --  that could provide energy for the whole town for FREE... they are just burning it now, not capturing ANY of the energy!!!! Maybe GE will help tap[ into this and get natural gas where it is needed. Geez... at least attach an electrical generator to it!

Capturing Methane

Ok, methane is a greenhouse gas. But then, after capturing it, it is going to be burnt.  So I am guessing that C02 will be released in this process, right?  So, is the savings here, besides the energy value of the methane, that you are releasing a less serious greenhouse gas in the process of burning methane?  

Not being critical, but just want to know what the benefit is here other than capturing an otherwise wasted source of energy.  What is the net benefit for greenhouse gas reduction or am I reading this carbon credit thing entirely wrong?

Hmmmm....

Could GE sell solar cookers to replace charcoal or propane grills and somehow turn that into a carbon offset?

Basically, they tap into that 1% rebate donated to fund carbon offset projects, thereby getting people to pay them to produce the solar cookers, and then GE goes on to sell the devices for a profit. Better yet, they allow people to turn in the old fossil-fuel powered grills, which GE recycles by selling the scrap metal to another company. This could be another carbon offset. Somehow, I don't think they are going to loose any money on this "charitable" activity.

WHAT A HOOT!

The ad at the bottom of  this thread, at least at this moment in time, is for the GE Earth Reward Card!!!!!

At least Grist cannot be accused of not being fair and balanced!!!

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