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The green issue of Outside hits the newsstands today -- flip it open, and what to your wondering eyes will appear but some wacko with a chainsaw and a skeptical guy in a newsboy cap. There they are, Grist President Chip Giller and Staff Writer David Roberts, illustrating a feature article about Grist. (Outside likes us, they really like us!) Stop squinting to read the tiny print -- check out an excerpt below the fold.

Outside magThe following is an excerpt of a feature story in the April issue of Outside magazine, which is now available on newsstands. To subscribe to Outside magazine, click here.

[UPDATE: The full text of the article is now up on the Outside website.]

What's So Funny?

Actually ... global warming, solar power, baby seals, carbon dioxide -- and that's just for starters. Thanks to the cheeky enviro-news site Grist.org, greens finally have a funny bone. Now these upstarts want to lead the movement into the mainstream. Seriously.

By Tim Dickinson

IMAGINE THAT WRITERS for The Daily Show staged a hostile takeover of Sierra magazine. Earnest reports on climate change and organic foods would get repackaged with devilish irreverence. There would be jokes about Superfund sites, tree huggers, and the plight of endangered species. Al Gore would be a huge fan-and a favorite whipping boy. People under 40 might actually read it.

Which is to say, you'd probably end up with something a lot like Grist.

An online magazine published out of a 1920s high-rise in downtown Seattle, Grist.org is reshaping green journalism by luring a younger and wider audience with an approach that's not so much dumbed down as smart-alecked up. The site's offerings include feature stories, interviews, an advice column, and a blog, though it's best known for the Daily Grist, which summarizes the top environmental news from the mainstream and alternative press in snackable blurbs.

Each is slugged with a trademark punny headline, which range from goofy ("Hey, Poacher, Leave Those Squids Alone") to painful ("It Takes a Pillage to Raze the Wild"). When Yao Ming, the seven-foot-six-inch NBA star from China, took a stand against his country's shark-fin harvesters last August, Grist declared, "No Soup for Yao!" In June, UPS's announcement that it was testing hybrid delivery trucks inspired "Nice Package."

The point behind the gags, says Chip Giller, Grist's tousled 36-year-old founder and president, is to get past the "crust of cynicism" that often surrounds environmental problems. Grist doesn't aim to make light of the issues -- indeed, Giller seems personally weighted by them -- but to make their details (and solutions) more palatable. As Giller puts it, "Humor is an effective way to get people to engage."

Adam Werbach, the former wunderkind president of the Sierra Club who now runs a nonprofit promoting sustainable living, agrees, likening Grist to "a gateway drug." Readers hooked by the Onion-y headlines find themselves reading serious reports on such unfunny subjects as biofuels and environmental justice-stories that would seem right at home in the pages of The Ecologist or Mother Jones.

In the current frenzied era of Wal-Mart organics, hybrid Chevy roadsters, and a million DVD copies of An Inconvenient Truth, Grist has also embraced green consumerism while renouncing what Giller calls the "historic hippie aspects" of environmentalism.

"We're trying to focus on the environment as it relates to normal peoples' lives," he says. "What they purchase, where they live, what they drive. Not something out there that they go visit occasionally." Which, Giller says, is why Grist provides "less worshipful language about the caribou in ANWR" and more answers to everyday questions, like the one recently posed to Grist's lifestyle-advice column, Ask Umbra: "Can I recycle a beer bottle if there's a lime wedge in it?" (Yep. Just drop it in the bin.)

While the snark attracts a youthful crowd-more than half of Grist's 750,000 regular readers are in their twenties and thirties-the underlying substance draws praise from veteran reporters and activists.

"As far as I know, every working environmental journalist in the country reads Grist as their tip sheet," says Bill McKibben, author of The End of Nature and a Grist board member. The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin, who covers Capitol Hill and the environment, credits the Daily Grist with giving her a useful "lay of the land," while New York Times science writer Andrew Revkin calls Grist's original stories "serious" and "substantive." Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope says the site has "raised the bar" for other green publications.

Grist has also become a unique forum for debate, a space where "people talk to each other across the walls of the movement," says McKibben. In 2005, Grist republished Michael Shellenberger and Ted Nordhaus's bombshell polemic, "The Death of Environmentalism," which argued that greens were fading into irrelevance by failing to adequately confront global crises like climate change, then solicited point-by-point rebuttals from the heads of the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council, and the National Environmental Trust. More recently, on the Gristmill blog, staff writer David Roberts argued that a Revkin piece in the Times lent credence to industry "shills" who were downplaying the threat of global warming. Revkin fought back in the comments section and even mixed it up with Grist readers.

Revkin and Eilperin both point out that Grist doesn't often produce groundbreaking news. But the site's reputation as a comedic lesser light can prove effective at disarming tight-lipped officials. In a January interview with Grist, Representative John Dingell -- a powerful, gruff Michigan Democrat and staunch defender of the U.S. auto industry who chairs the House committee in charge of federal fuel-economy standards -- flatly admitted that his district's parochial concerns aren't trumped by the national interest.

"I'm an American. And I gotta help my country," he said. "But in a like fashion, I've gotta help my own constituents."

Grist's strange brew of wonkery and wit can also cause plain old confusion. On April Fools' Day 2000, USA Today's Cesar G. Soriano reported items from Grist's special lineup of fake news -- which included pieces on Pamela Anderson hosting an Earth Day event and Ford's new "Mastodon" SUV -- as if they were fact. Soriano didn't laugh when he figured it out.

"I don't care if Jesus Christ himself shows up to clean a river for [Grist]," he later wrote to Giller. "It won't be published in my column."

"Sometimes we run into problems with people who are too literal," Giller grins. "But that's not our audience."

IT'S 10 a.m. on a cloudless, frigid October Monday, and sunlight is pouring into Grist's modern eighth-floor offices, which are a mismatch with the classically ornate Dexter Horton Building. Grist's staff of 20 moved into the airy, 5,000-square-foot space four months ago, and it still has that barely-lived-in look. The unadorned walls are splashed with shades of mango, cornflower, and cream. The beige carpet is spotless. The furniture is IKEA. Like everything in the nonprofit's $2.5 million annual budget, it's paid for by foundation grants, along with a dollop of reader donations and advertising.

Over in the large editorial wing, a windowed space with views of Mount Rainier, Roberts and senior editor Lisa Hymas, both in their early thirties, are supposed to be finalizing headlines for the Daily Grist, which is due to be posted on the home page and sent out in an e-mail newsletter in 15 minutes. Roberts, artistically unkempt, wears a T-shirt emblazoned with a clenched fist and the sunburst slogan SOLAR POWER TO THE PEOPLE! The petite Hymas is braced against the chill in a heavy turtleneck sweater. They procrastinate by giving me a primer on Daily Grist headline history, delivered with the kind of freakish conversational coordination found in seven-year-old twins.

"It was a spur-of-the-moment idea," Roberts says, "but it's since become the calling card of the entire Grist operation."

"It was kind of a fluke," says Hymas.

"A fateful decision-"

"Which haunts us to this day."

"It seemed like a good idea five years ago," sighs Roberts. "But 5,000 e-mails later ..."

"There are only so many whale puns-" says Hymas.

"Or Canada puns-"

"Or forest puns. We just keep hoping for a new global calamity that we haven't punned out. Climate change is getting a little tough."

"Somebody needs to screw up something else."

Roberts and Hymas, one-fourth of Grist's eight-person in-house editorial team, typify the talent Giller has cultivated since founding the site in 1999. Roberts was hired as an assistant editor in 2003, his salary provided in part by $35,000 in reader donations from the Grist Grapefruit Challenge, a pledge drive during which staffers ate nothing but grapefruit for two weeks. He quickly became a force behind the Gristmill blog and is now one of the site's big guns: In 2006, he interviewed both Al Gore, who talked about An Inconvenient Truth, and Barack Obama, who discussed fuel-economy standards.

Hymas, who's been with Grist off and on since the beginning, focuses on the site's original content, which includes Muckraker, a political dispatch by Nashville-based Amanda Griscom Little (who also pens Outside's Code Green column); Victual Reality, a weekly column about organic edibles; the Grist List, which celebrates green celebrities; and Ask Umbra.

Giller, meanwhile, spends much of his time selling donors on his ambitious expansion plans, which he refers to as Grist 2.0. His goal is to triple the site's current readership by ramping up its lifestyle offerings -- adding a broad range of product reviews, along with personal ads and classifieds -- in a bid to appeal to the growing legion of sustainability-minded shoppers who support America's $30 billion green market.

The buildup, which Giller says will require $10 million in new funding, will put Grist in competition for readers and ad dollars with for-profit sites like TreeHugger and Ideal Bite, which have developed robust followings by blogging about eco-friendly products. (Grist has collaborated with both sites on cross-promotions and content development.) Giller also wants to pump up Grist's news resources. He envisions Grist as a one-stop portal that attracts and serves consumers, then uses serious journalism to convert them into activists.

At the moment, though, Roberts and Hymas still have to finish their headlines ...

Debauched

Yikes, I will sure miss having an environmental site that's not selling stuff.  

If I read that right you're just going to become another "Real Simple" or "UTNE" magazine, devoted to selling people environmental good feelings through more consumption.

Sad.  I guess the feature on car interiors was just the first shot ...

What did Chomsky say about the corruption of the media by advertisers?  Something like "It's hard to get too worked up about it when they seem to like it so much."

The 5% Project

come on, dude...

...don't enviro journalists get to eat, too? Who else is going to pay the bills?

I don't think people fully understand the resource constraints that alternative pubs like Grist operate under. Magazines like the Nation and the New Republic are legendary for the deficits they generate every year, financed by prestige-seeking rich guys. (TNR, which sold out to neoliberalism decades ago, just sold out to a corporation, meaning that it will now have to be profitable, btw).

I'm sure if some rich person wanted to float Grist, management would be happy not to sell ads. Any takers?

The test of Grist, like any other self-respecting pub, will be its ability to separate editorial from advertising. I, for one, hope the greenbacks from companies peddling green goods come rolling in -- so that I'll have more resources to raise as much hell as possible.

Victual Reality

Down Browser

Use Firefox browser with images and java disabled and the ads just go away.

750,000 pairs of eyeballs is really big for such a small hungry crew.

Grist gets the exclusive when I have ground-breaking news.   Happy vernal equinox!

Why I support Grist taking ads...

If Grist can support itself in part with advertising they should go for it. As Tom says, the key is to maintain the editorial/advertising separation. That's the important thing.

I've spent most of my life working for non-profits and I can attest that it's very hard to find work that one cares about that also pays enough to meet basic needs, let alone to have savings or luxuries. I would like very much for the Grist staff not to find themselves having to make hard choices about whether to go or to stay for financial reasons, and if advertising can help to make up that gap then I'm all for it. (For clarification, I am not a staff member, I am a contributing writer.)

Also, while advertising rarely persuades me to buy anything (largely because I can never remember which ad is for which product -- I am an advertiser's nightmare) I am sometimes interested to see what exists out there that I don't already know about, and I am assuming that the kinds of products that might be advertised on Grist might be things in which I'd be interested.

Canada puns?

When I recovered from my swoon -- images of grim, fair-haired young men in glasses wielding power tools generally have that effect on me -- , I found this article by Tim Dickinson to be an excellent consolation on a cold damp day.  Mazal tov!  Too bad Tom Philpott and Umbra Fisk did not get mentioned by name, though.

So DR and Lisa Hymas prattle on like seven-year-old twins?  How charming.  Their co-workers must be overjoyed.  No doubt when they go home in the evening, they cannot wait to tell their family and friends, "Oh, you will never guess what darling things that David and Lisa said today!"

Also: Actually, it would be kind of cool if Jesus Christ showed up and cleaned a river.  Chances are, of course, that is not likely to happen any time soon, unless the date is April 1 ...

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

THAT is what David Roberts looks like?

He looks smarter than Chip. And Chip looks more manly. You guys, duke it out. Congrats! Good to see your great work praised in Outside.

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Nice!!

Great stuff. You deserve to eat too! Make all the $$ you can. I'm sure you'll do it an ecologically conscious way.

J.S.

I teach environmental economics and blog at www.voicesofreason.info.

Dave hasn't changed his look

I knew him when he was knee high to a grasshopper, and he had that look then.  It made him look like a wise, thoughtful baby, and I think the look still works for him.

I'm loving the recognition Grist is getting.  You've made being environmentally aware just much more fun than it has been in 20 years or so.

The New, Amazing, Powerful, 2.0

C'mon, 2.0?  Even Bill Gates has moved past the whole version number thing.  I'm a bit lost as to what's green, funny, or interesting about that picture (looking hard for an electric chainsaw, or safety equipment).  It reminds me more of an attempt to recreate a Trey Parker/Matt Stone photo shoot.  I'm always a skeptic when someone takes their base for granted in looking for new readers/clickers.  An example is Mother Earth News which has moved so far away from a simple living and do-it-yourself magazine to a "buy this for your suburban farm" mag where I (still a subscriber) probably don't read half the content anymore, but maybe I'm just part of the "historic hippy aspect".  While my local NPR fund drive is underway this week, I now feel a whole lot better about listening to their long pitches knowing their content will never be weighted against advertising.

Congrats!

You guys deserve the recognition.  I long ago stopped reading most of the other environmental sites because it was just too depressing (especially taken together with the current political environment and news).  Honestly, I just couldn't take it any more.  But I kept my subscription to Daily Grist because it always makes me laugh while I stay up to date with what's happening in the environment.  The headlines sometimes make me laugh out loud.  Very clever staff.

I say, as a nonprofit, if you guys need the funds from advertising then go for it.  I hope you'll use the same care in choosing what ads to accept as you do in your reporting and trust that you will.  If it means that your talented, dedicated staff won't be forced to decide whether to stay at Grist or take a better paying job elsewhere because you have more funds available for salaries, then I'm all for it.

THAT is what David Roberts looks like?

Chip looks a bit maniacal. At least he is wearing glasses. But he might want to consider finding some additional protective gear.

David, however, looks a little uncomfortable out in the "wilderness". Might explain some of his posts.

Is it that obvious?



grist.org
Laissez les bonnes temps roulez!

Excellent points about the evils of advertising, y'all.  But here's a thought.  Let's focus on immediate environmental threats to the planet for awhile. Once that's taken care of, we can shift our attention to ending the twin scourges of capitalism and global imperialism.

Also sexism, racism, age-ism,  itchy synthetic fabrics, Velveeta cheese, "Danke shoen and Why, why, why?  Delilah?" (anything relating to Wayne Newton or Tom Jones, actually), terrorism, and terroir-ism (sidewise or otherwise - "Que Syrah syrah").

We're all deeply saddened that Gristmill is selling out to "feel good" environmentalism, of course. Hybrid SUVs. Forcing coal mine owners to offer an organic vegetarian lunch alternative to their employees. Making Al Gore iron his own shirts and bicycle all the way from his mansion to the private jet terminal in Nashville.

But, hey! Could it have been me who jumped on someone for praising college kids who were selling t-shirts and coffee mugs with "green" messages on them. Well, I was wrong. Deeply, terribly wrong.  And I'm sorry.

P.S.  I was surprised to see what David Roberts looks like, too.  I somehow thought he would be, well, older.

P.P.S.  Are Chip Giller's boots made from leather???

Robert Delfs

DR needs to workout

Very chubby.  They both need a radical makeover sporting clothing advertised in "Outside".

Demand a man-sized Stihl chainsaw next photo shoot.  Or bring your own.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

Cantankerous

No wonder Dave is in such a tyrannical mood most of the time.  Dragging around all that extra weight.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog
fun?

According to the Outside story, this site is supposed to be fun and funny. Yet today on the front page i read my car is killing me. If that doesn't do it coal will (again, right there on the front page). or the climate. or etc. Um, what's fun about this? Oh well, Outside rarely gets stuff right. Here's yet another example.

If you can't take a joke..

Um, I can see the idea that your car's "new car" fumes is killing you may not be that funny to you.  

Robert Delfs
There is this thing called human nature

To succeed we have to acknowledge its existence. Given the opportunity, healthy, normal human beings will strive to look good in the eyes of their peers.

Ever ask yourself why eyeglasses, hair, clothing and everything else are always in a constant state of change, depending on things like your age and social circle? This isn't just an American thing, it is universal, eyeglasses being replaced with lip discs depending on your culture.

We may not like it, but we are stuck with it. The only way out of this is to provide people a means of fulfilling their nature in environmentally benign ways. Sex can be decoupled from reproduction without sexual abstinence. Status seeking can be decoupled from environmental destruction without status abstinence also, by redefining status symbols and using increasingly environmentally benign technologies.

The idea is slowly sinking in. I for one am very glad Grist is breaking the mold. Old environmentalists didn't go away, they just grew up, bought rural acreage on islands or houses in cities and started families, as is only natural. The old environmentalist dogma calling for status abstinence was a dead end strategy. Look around you, and then go look at your high school year books.

Below we have a younger Giller, reflecting his peer group, which was based on his age and the economic bracket he was born into:

I just hope nobody finds my senior picture and posts it.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

One and the same

Delfs wrote: "Excellent points about the evils of advertising, y'all.  But here's a thought.  Let's focus on immediate environmental threats to the planet for awhile. Once that's taken care of, we can shift our attention to ending the twin scourges of capitalism and global imperialism."

OK, let's focus on the immediate environmental threats:  profligate waste, destruction of irreplaceable natural resources, relentless evisceration of the food web on land and sea, rising levels of greenhouse gases being dumped into the atmosphere, wars conducted solely to secure access to petroleum, and the failure of liberal democracies to fashion an effective response to all of the above, thanks to being totally owned by the private interests who benefit from the existing policies.

In other words, capitalism and global imperialism (but you repeat yourself) ARE the immediate threats to the environment.

Like a chainsaw or a bulldozer, capitalism is an efficient tool, but a stupid one capable of great destruction, and it must be carefully and thoughtfully constrained in order to exist in a finite biosphere without rendering that biosphere uninhabitable.

The 5% Project

JMG

I tend to agree with most of what you said but would change the word constrained to directed, and the problem isn't capitalism. The soviet union and China wrecked their ecosystems long before they had free markets. Now take a look at India, an agrarian society with a free market that has also managed to destroy its ecosystems. The rivers in China and India are open sewers.

So obviously, blaming our problems on Capitalism is simplistic and getting dog eared.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world

Advertising in the Age of Peak Energy

First and foremost, so long as eco/green/enviro products cost more than cheaper, more convenient alternatives, getting the mainstream to make purchases is a long battle to slog through.

Advertising

I MIGHT have to stop visiting the Grist website.

I know the Grist folks have to make a living. I know I should send a check this moment so you don't have to resort to prostitution. But I also don't think my contribution will prevent the ads from showing up on my screen. And this, in a convoluted way, is why the ads might drive me away from this website. I'm already gloomy. Not much optimism that the human species will be able to solve the climate change problem. Not much optimism that good will prevail over evil. Not much confidence that reason will prevail over blind faith. I can't afford to donate money to more conservation organizations. And I have trouble belieiving that anything I can do -- or anyone reading this can do -- will really make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Why? Because of people like the guy who is about to kill the baby seal. Seeing that ad every time I check out the Grist blog is so depressing I just want to give up. It is a constant reminder that not even the simplest problems can be solved. People can't be persuaded to stop killing baby seals for fur. How is somebody supposed to prevent them from engaging in all of the less-direct harm inflicted on animals or the entire biosphere? How does one stop a person who is willing to club a helpless seal from incinerating the globe if it will bring in a little extra cash in the short-run?

I want to love my fellow humans, but I can't feel anything but hate toward the guy in the ad. And I have to return to wondering, what's the point of trying to defeat him and everyone like him?

Unfortunately, the Grist website is addictive and I probably won't stop visiting. But I don't know whether others share this view. I don't know how they're reacting. However, I thought you might want to know, so I'm posting this comment.

Foward! I guess... probably... whatever.

Wiscidea --

That sounds horrible, wow, I'm sure glad I have 'Load Images' and 'Enable Java' turned OFF.  Mozilla Firefox browser gives me protection from ads.

Too many people have locked themselves into their cabins.  We need everybody on deck.  We can do it.  I see it in the numbers.

Outside Mag -Green Issue

Outside missed the boat, forgeting that the more people on the earth the more of an impact.  Conservation begins at home ONECHILD per family. How?  End all tax credits for kids.  Mandate a policy of free heath care to those wishing to cease having kids.

      LESS KIDS LESS IMPACT ON THE WORLD.

           ?Think about it?

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