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Carbon offsets that go to developing world forests rule

Posted by biodiversivist (Guest Contributor) at 1:14 PM on 02 Nov 2006

Here's an uplifting article by Rhett Butler over at Mongabay. It enables my personal eco-fantasy. It's titled, Avoided deforestation could help fight third world poverty under global warming pact. $43 billion could flow into developing countries:

When trees are cut greenhouse gases are released into the atmosphere -- roughly 20 percent of annual emissions of such heat-trapping gases result from deforestation and forest degradation. Avoided deforestation is the concept where countries are paid to prevent deforestation that would otherwise occur. Funds come from industrialized countries seeking to meet emissions commitments under international agreements like the Kyoto Protocol. Policymakers and environmentalists alike find the idea attractive because it could help fight climate change at a low cost while improving living standards for some of the world's poorest people, safeguarding biodiversity, and preserving other ecosystem services. A number of prominent conservation biologists and development agencies including the World Bank and the U.N. have already endorsed the idea. [Even the United States government has voiced support for the plan.]

The article also arrived just in time to support my argument presented here. Don't you just love it when you find people who share your point of view?

I am always looking for ways to kill two birds with one stone. That's an idiom for doubling efficiency or cutting costs in half. Using the same batteries for my electric bike and power tools is an example. How would you like to do that every time you buy carbon offsets? When you buy offsets that go to wind or solar power, you're keeping CO2 out of the atmosphere by replacing fossil fuel, which is great. Everyone gets to choose, but like Jason has mentioned a few times, this approach not only helps reduce global warming, it also helps deal with its inevitable impacts at the same time. Me, I prefer the forest preservation and rehabilitation route, in part because it is more efficient, essentially killing four birds with one stone:

  1. You are keeping carbon out of the atmosphere.
  2. You are preserving a part of the planet's life-giving biosphere (and its biodiversity).
  3. You are helping biodiversity to weather global warming by giving it a place to migrate to or from.
  4. You are pumping money into developing nations that will use it to build their economies in ways other than cutting down their forests.

As for renewable energy, I think that's coming without me needing to invest further. By voting green, my tax dollars are already being invested in that, although not always wisely (mandatory use and subsidization of soy- and corn-based biofuels). I can also do things as an individual in that department, like riding an electric bike, recycling, driving a Prius, telecommuting, and living in a small, efficient urban home. By helping to save intact forest ecosystems (not trees per se), I have a well-rounded and diversified ecological portfolio. If someone wanted to pay me $10,000 per hectare to set my forest property aside in perpetuity as an old-growth forest conservation easement, I'd take it in a heartbeat, because, ah, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Make that a win-win-win-win-win for English majors

Here's an uplifting article by Rhett Butler over at Mongabay.

Frankly, my dear ...

I thought that name sounded familiar,

and a little dashing.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
English majors; biosphere

No doubt Margaret Mitchell's big and beloved novel deserves great praise.  But when I saw the name "Rhett Butler," what popped into my mind at once was Clark Gable, i.e. the movie, not the book.  The Wikipedia article seems a bit perverse, in fact, to concentrate so thoroughly on the character in the novel.  Since I think it is fair to say that for the great majority of us, the definitive telling of GWTW is the movie, not the novel, a more balanced article would include a discussion of how the novel's character is presented distinctly, perhaps with important differences, in the movie.

To Biodiv, on his message: I love the photo of the red-eyed tree frog, Agalichnis callidryas,one of my favorite forest critters, and definitely one of the most photogenic of herps.

On the other hand, we really have to find a better way to make the same point as that horrible metaphor, "to kill two birds with one stone."

What you wrote is admirable, as far as I can understand it.  And I think there should be no surprise if what you wrote and what Rhett wrote are so simpatico.

Here is the second of the four birds that you are aiming your missile at:
<<
You are preserving a part of the planet's life-giving biosphere (and its biodiversity).
>>

I would appreciate it if you could elaborate on "life-giving" in that sentence.  In view of your great sensitivity to how evolution involves competition that is sometimes violent and even deadly, as you expressed so well most recently in the Quammen thread, I wonder what is it about the planet's biosphere that leads you to characterize it as on balance "live-giving."  I assume you mean more than just that well-adapted organisms tend to fare pretty well, all things being equal.  I also assume that this is a well-worked subject, so that you will have an answer ready at hand.  Thanks.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

Canis, losing the Amazonian carbon sink

would be an event we could never hope to reverse, or recover from. The amount of carbon stored there is gargantuan. If we lose the Amazon, game over.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
biosphere = carbon sink?

I am sure you are right, Biodiv, about the Amazonian carbon sink.  But the term "biosphere" still confuses me, then.  I thought it had something to do with plants and animals and other organisms, whatever their effect in storing carbon.  Are you saying that, say, the Sonoran Desert, with its several ecosystems, is a less valuable and "life-giving" part of the biosphere than the Amazon valley, because it is not so impressive as a carbon sink?  

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.
To be honest Canis,

if the Sonoran desert were to become a giant subdivision, as it looks like it might, it would not have much global impact. Just one more thread being removed from an unraveling tapestry. It clearly would be a trajic loss of diversity, wonder, discovery, and intellectual stimulation for future generations.

In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world
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